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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:05:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:On Thursday, 19 October 2011, after years of scaling back RPG output, CCP laid off nearly all remaining White Wolf employees, effectively rendering White Wolf Game Studios defunct, although CCP continues to own the trademarks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Wolf
lol Requiem really was for them then.
That game blew an Im glad it destroyed them.
Now fourth edition D&D should do that to WoTC
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:19:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:It boggles one's mind that CCP are sacking developers & community when it is the MANAGEMENT that should be let go.
gotta agree here. It wasnt the ppl's faults who are getting the axe that caused Hilmar to be all "See what they do not what they say"
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:20:00 -
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Solhild wrote:Resubbing accounts and adding another soon 
no troll meant but how does this have to do with the topic? Theyre firing 20% of their staff and thats good enough for you to resub?
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:53:00 -
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Hey check it out; they fired the ppl that were actually... you know... communicating with us.
brilliant guys
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:30:00 -
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Riflin' Betty wrote:So after firing your entire community team, who will mod your fancy new forums?
funny thing there, I posted the names of the ppl that got canned but I cut the real names out for fear of getting banned like they seem to do to other ppl that use real names of CCP ppl but it might not matter anymore now that there are no mods
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:37:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Where is this list?
Let's get SLASHDOT Coverage... get the message across tho the MMO industry, WE DONT WANT THIS CRAP.
page 17 post 335 I think
Its cool, theyll just hire replacements from Goonsquad. theyll fix it
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:41:00 -
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Miilla wrote:CCP care so much about the Customers (community) they lay off their customer interface team :)
That is a very clear message right there.
Don't you get it?
and they care so much about refocussing to the game they get rid of content designers
I think I get the message and it sounds like "stay the course"
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:48:00 -
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Skunk Gracklaw wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:Its cool, theyll just hire replacements from Goonsquad. theyll fix it Who is Goonsquad?
te name of your corp from another game lol
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:08:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Maybe the 20% fired can go work for Perpetuum or Guild Wars 2 or SWTOR :)
Because that is where WE are all going :)
Im not going to SWTOR
thats just talking WoW
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:26:00 -
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Myxx wrote:Raid'En wrote:if the staff going out is the one linked to WoD, why do we see names we know since a long time being part of it ? >_< Thats the fallacy of it. The cancers aren't being removed, just the people who gave a damn.
yes, hilmar being that cancer
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:34:00 -
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DJ Xaphod wrote:Angeliq wrote:I don't care about those 20% soon to be ex-CCP employees. I pay CCP to play EVE Online, not WoD or Dust514 and I expect CCP to use my money in order to develop and improve EVE Online. It's not my fault those ppl are being fired, CCP went money hungry and got involved in other projects thinking they could use EVE money in order to develop more milking cows. Now don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with those ppl, I don't hate them or anything, I just DON'T CARE about them, I never wanted any of them in the first place, CCP should feel sorry for them, not me. Yes, those 20% might have no fault, but I just (yes, you guessed) don't care :)
It's actually good to see CCP finally coming back to EVE Online tho I don't really believe anything CCP says, cos you know... the truth is out there... behind all this smoke and PR stunts that surrounds the forums. I'd agree, however at least a fair few of the people being layed off are EVE Online staff, so I don't believe CCP are coming back to EVE Online. I'll believe what they do, not what they say, after all.
not just staff, content designers
Grog Barrel wrote:Angeliq wrote:I don't care about those 20% soon to be ex-CCP employees. I pay CCP to play EVE Online, not WoD or Dust514 and I expect CCP to use my money in order to develop and improve EVE Online. It's not my fault those ppl are being fired, CCP went money hungry and got involved in other projects thinking they could use EVE money in order to develop more milking cows. Now don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with those ppl, I don't hate them or anything, I just DON'T CARE about them, I never wanted any of them in the first place, CCP should feel sorry for them, not me. Yes, those 20% might have no fault, but I just (yes, you guessed) don't care :)
It's actually good to see CCP finally coming back to EVE Online tho I don't really believe anything CCP says, cos you know... the truth is out there... behind all this smoke and PR stunts that surrounds the forums. The point of this thread was to make customers feel bad and responsible for those getting fired. This way, the customers would have to think twice before expressing their disappointments by canceling their Subs. Basically the easiest way: Blame the others for your own faults, have a clean conscience. Keep dreaming of your greatness.
reads that way to me and quite a few others as well
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:42:00 -
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kinda curious to why our lauded CSM that talk to these guys daily arent jumping all over this saying it was their idea like the dev blog about the winter expansion.
but seriously, youd think theyd have given the rest of us a clue (unless this was one of those last second decisions)
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:01:00 -
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Michael Turate wrote:
The company should be applauded for coming back from the brink,
um they have?
please show me that graph...
surprise layoffs doesnt scream "back from the brink" to me
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:21:00 -
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Hey, where are the CSM in all this? I havent seen them post today
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.19 23:36:00 -
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eh Ive never talked to a GM in game and then was told to post anything on the forums lol
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.20 18:00:00 -
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Mr Management wrote:You would have been better to:-
Scrap Dust and fix PI.
Keep WoD and go back to not taking the Eve players for granted.
Its silly to put all your eggs into one basket (Eve) and since playing this game from beta 3
WoD was my next move.
Great example of youll never please everyone
He's actually upset theyre focussing on EVE
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.20 18:34:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:RougeOperator wrote:And they LOCKED the threads voicing discontent saying they all should be in one thread. Fascism seems too be the new way of communication with the players.
Some of those threads were talking about very different aspects of this.
They are forcing discussion into one thread to keep people from talking about what just happened.
Baloney CCP. You need to realize that as of now there are only a few moderators around. Those who survived this round do have other functions to tend to then just monitoring, way too many forum topics. Putting all related stuff into one thread is the logical thing to do. Having had modern forum software all they had to do was check some checkboxes and *merge* one topic into another would had been even better. But hey, no need to talk here about how great these new forums are not.
an dude, not the above but rogueoperator
are you being serious that "this new wave of thread closings pointing to one thread" is the FIRST time youve seen this come from CCP?
These guys are pretty much renowned for draconian forum tactics lol
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.20 20:15:00 -
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RougeOperator wrote:
This may be the first time some players have run into it. But I'm also highlighting its stupidity right after we were promised more open communication.
And pointing out that they did not mean a thing they said. And that hilmars apology is just more lip service and he never meant it.
Yeah cause I (and others) havent been saying that in damn near EVERY THREAD where ppl were like "OMG YAY HILMAR IS GOD WE LOVE CCP"
and telling them "I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say".
Yet we got the "they apologized what more do you want" or "some people cant be satisfied and will never be happy"
lol
This is my "I told you so"
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.20 20:42:00 -
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lol I cant link to the forums here cause "posts cannot contain html" even though its a copy/pasted link to another thread in General.... good job web team.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=220213#post220213
this thread annoys me because its more of those people that swallow what CCP is saying to us when its their actions we should be watching not our words. One thing I damn sure learned from Hilmar.
Holy ****, it only took me 4 tries to get that link to post
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.20 20:57:00 -
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Slippery Duke wrote:What we need is a honest and open thread from Hilmar, basically for people to ask him questions regarding the changes and whats went wrong. Him and the various other senior management can answer these questions in a honest open fashion. I know its asking a lot but at this point he community need to see that the guy(s) in charge know there arse from his elbow so to speak. We as a community at this point are beyond disgruntled in fact i dont think even gruntled covers it 
I dont think at this point we need more words.
They just need to stop with the sunshine blowing up our collective asses and start putting that time into rolling things out.
Actions. Not words. Ive seen enough words from these guys to last me a lifetime
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:09:00 -
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they effectively killed not only White Wolf but the WoD project.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.21 16:42:00 -
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Dodecapod wrote:
Somehow, it all slowed way the f*** down and all we've seen of INCARNA is what I sincerely consider a BETA.
THEY considered it a BETA or "prototype" too
http://www.wodnews.net/Home/tabid/41/ctl/ArticleView/mid/401/articleId/69/New-WoD-MMO-info-from-The-Grand-Masquerade-UPDATED.aspx
Quote:Incarna is actually considered a prototype, the rendering engine that will ship with the MMO will be much more advanced.
(before the WoD/White Wolf dismantling)
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.21 16:49:00 -
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Slippery Duke wrote:So essentially people were paying to beta test...... excusse me while i hit myself about the head with my keyboard 
yessir, love the ppl that were supporting CCP and how they were saying it WASNT a Beta etc.
Hows that Kool Aid taste now?
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:01:00 -
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Azelor Delaria wrote:
WoD was just tabletop Twilight and nothing more. It's why I never encouraged anyone who played it. People always told me, "World of Darkness is far superior to Dungeons and Dragons in every way!" When I asked for specifics, they'd of course not give me any.
You go play Sparkly Tabletop Vampires. I'll be over here being more nerdy and kicking ass with my Warmage.
Nice revisionist history you got there...
Quote:release of the first novel, Twilight, in 2005
Quote:In 1992, Vampire: The Masquerade won the Origins Award for Best Roleplaying Rules of 1991
Dude for Vampire the masquerade to be tabletop twilight, thered have to be a time machine involved
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.22 15:11:00 -
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Ex-Cryptic? Oh god tell me its not Bill Roper O.o
Ex-Sony too? Well, he/she'll do well here, they have experience in destroying popular games
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.23 14:15:00 -
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C4LYP50 wrote:
OT: I was saddened to hear about the redundancies, and my heart goes out to you guys. Sadly, I have to say, I still feel that if a 200+ page threadnaught didn't convince you that you were onto a bad course......you can't blame the players who spoke with their wallets. Someone practically DARED them to leave, There was fair warning.
Quote:Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
Hilmar's arrogance washes my hands clean of any wrongdoing imo
We should really stop calling it FiS
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.10.24 03:47:00 -
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Quote:"Even now, higher-ups still talk down on players," the insider told me, "and say we have just hit a bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of our vision. We're told that it is not our fault."
"Even now, higher-ups still talk down on players," the insider told me, "and say we have just hit a bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of our vision. We're told that it is not our fault."
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Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.28 02:35:00 -
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Le Verde wrote:p.s no subscriber for less than 5 years should be allowed anywhere near csm .....
True, we dont want to know what new players think
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
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